Id also like to see the currently all pervasive Heresy itself honestly made a point of discussion, without sentimentality or appealing to emotions which we all have wrapped up in this topic. Atlanta, GA Hello: I am a sedevacantist. But who gets to determine where the standard of Christ is planted? Gerard Saguto, FSSP and Fr. I understand the point you're trying to make when you state that people thought the same of the Great & Venerated Saint Who ate locusts & foretold the Coming of the Redeemer and they did. Listening to audio sancto raised much concern for me a long, long ago. (1 Cor:23). For once youre ranting, raving & complaining about something other than us evil sedevacantists! His visit was strictly Fraternity business; he is visiting all apostolates in connection with his duties as Superior General. The real truth of the matter is that some of them are not doing or saying what piokolby wants them to do or say. I read this blog daily.I may post here about 3 times a week, if that, and I would hardly consider what I do hijacking. Liturgical Guides to the Seasons The FSSP has a long public and well documented record with the SSPX. me) Die for Him? [Jesus: The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep. Satan did it 3. All that said, I found it very unfortunate that Bishop Olson yanked away the TLM without providing any alternative using his own resources, either at the college or within reasonable proximity to it. Saguto is FSSPDistrict Superior in the United States: Insanity has been described as "doing the same over and over while expecting different results." Time and again I have tried to make clear that pocket recordings do not faithfully reproduce choral sound. Sunday Masses will . But everyone one who has signed off on VII by professing obedience to it and its heresiarchs is outside the Church. At the top of the page under Photo Albums: Relics and Vist, November 2015 Visit and Vespers Oct. 26 - Nov. 1, 2015 Until then, Ill continue to uphold the duty of engaging his folly here such as Im able. Im sure some people reading this comment section of louies fine blog will be scratching their heads thinking so many different opinions on the same topic whats it all about.. Im not talking about those who comment but readers of louies blog who might just be coming across these topics for the first time. Do they disagree with Voris? Peace be to you. To suggest in such a snide, sarcastic, evil way that these two movements by the FSSP are in any way related to the controversy here or on Church Militant is beyond the pale. I think that for piety, for love of Our Lord, and for love of the Holy Father (no matter how bad he is), we ought to publicly resist his errors based on the previous Popes throughout history. Servant of our lady i looked at your two links and read them again. ** Voris has done much good and I used to enjoy him but now I actively avoid him. Barbara, There are validly consecrated priests & bishops worldwide to shepherd & provide (valid-it must be noted,) Sacraments to the faithful by the thousands. Mr. Matt also says that St. Saguto, Fr. http://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/articles/item/1973-new-from-remnant-tv-a-ceasefire-the-fssp-vs-the-sspx Shame on the FSSP! All evil? The bottom line, in my opinion, is he is merely a distraction from the real issues facing the Catholic world and the world in general. the requirement that adults not be alone with minors).. Phoenix, AZ Baltimore, MD I thank God daily for them. And Taylor was hardly the only former staffer to have concerns about how the college was run. Scranton, PA Mr. Peter McShurley ('14), Rev. Seattle, WA Calgary, AB Faithful Catholics do not have time to be having this debate with the Synod just around the corner. So does the Church. 5th group SSPX RESISTENCE 2012/2013 these are mostly priests that belong to the SSPX. This is a good and reasonable rule for the protection of minors and avoiding issues (if . Just one full-communion Catholic educational environment where debate over the impact and soundness of a monumentally disruptive 50 year old council might take place? 6th group sedevacantism those who belong to this group regard the chair of peter vacant there are different variations/groups of sedevacantism but mainly beleive there hastnt been a true pope since the death of pope pius xii 1958.1 of the main reasons they beleive this is that a formal herectic cannot hold office and therefore places himself outside the church. In any case, the plagiarized text (as alleged in the link above) is taken from a sermon given by Fr. Im also reminded of Dr.Taylor Marshalls involvement of Fisher More College and am still in the dark as to many of the details. Regarding group #5, you said 5th group SSPX RESISTENCE 2012/2013 these are mostly priests that belong to the SSPX. God bless you. No wonder then, that at the beginning of the liturgical year the Church employs the imperative Excita Stir up! More like battle weary at times while being good soldiers of Christ. Dear Adam 95, That should be past tense, i.e. Why should this action with the SSPX have any meaningful import? Dear Louie, Dear Scott, The fear of being disobedient to (modernist) Popes made so many many Catholics in the last 50 years compromise. Michael Voris has a bee in his bonnet and he has boxed himself into lambasting a group that just goes about its business without giving him any attention at all. When Pope John Paul II had the Assisi meeting Archbishop Lefebvre pleaded with the good Cardinals like Siri and Oddi to make a public protest to defend the honor of the Church. Edmund Campion dressed up as a jeweler to avoid arrest. This is at the 4 minute mark in the video. Rules or commands should be in play, and they need to be, but these are not what are supposed to define the home. If interested, you can contact her at 612-450-0273 or gemmarose974@gmail.com. This takes a toll on an aging trad & many times that is apparent. Our Lady of Guadalupe Seminary Father Gerard Saguto, F.S.S.P. Dallas, TX (Both Voris and Marshall refer to JPII and John XXIII as saints - big red flag!). I want news I can use, and information about my beloved Church that either furthers my knowledge about her, or warns me about those who want to destroy her. This is rich: Voris mentioning those who dont really know very much at all about the SSPX as he gets even the most basic facts completely wrong. (2) Re: courage or lack thereof of FSSP priests, funniest thing I ever saw was on the Remnant pic of priest all decked out in battle fatigues including bush hat w/the headline Will You (i.e. The good taste and good judgement of this project is thanks to the pastor, Fr. Love your enemies, be good to those who hate you is not a suggestion. Scranton, PA Allentown, PA The threats certainly have increased in intensity in recent years; even the lukewarm Christian can sense this and perhaps feels the need to join in the resistance and push back. Gerard Saguto, FSSP, North American Superior for the Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter, made a pastoral visit to Mater Dei on Sunday, March 6th, offering the 9:00 AM Sung Mass and the Benediction following the Mass. All in all, the time table laid out herein is accurate. FSSP en MEXICO - Oficial 14.7K subscribers Subscribe Like Share 1.8K views 1 year ago Esto es una pequesima muestra de lo que da identidad a la FSSP. But they are for the most part Catholic. Take any good news with a grain of salt when it comes from modernists. The Morning of Recollection will be open to all men including non-parishioners and will include a conference by Fr. Likewise he used to criticize the Council for its abject failures. These latest round of attacks is the fruit of Father Wolfes influence that is a manifestly provable fact. Our Holy Faith often falls victim to being taken for granted. I think it sometimes gives them scruples. Meaning the official constitutions and public documents between Rome & the FSSP. NEWS & ADVICE. No I didnt. Post Falls, ID Whether an FSSP supporter is willing to admit it or not, he implicitly accepts the orthodoxy, legitimacy and/or intrinsic goodness of the Novus Ordo, ecumenism, religious liberty, communion in the hand, liturgical dance, server-ettes, Tyler, TX This is the SSPX argument with respect to supplied jurisdiction. Hi, my2cents, Quite honestly, few of us can giggle today, no? Saskatoon, SK Full communion is a VC2 heresy. Now I suppose he is throwing darts at it. Nor are they interested in hearing the kind of drivel spewed out by piokolby, rich and others. Gerard Saguto, FSSP November 15, 2019 From Archbishop Bernard A. The FSSP does not have time to respond to every crackpot coming down the internet pike. This isnt the behavior of a man who had a change of heart based on a new awareness of truth. FSSP NA on YouTube The college (despite having some good faculty and staff) was on track to die either way, and that cannot be laid all at the feet of the bishop, or the FSSP at Mater Dei. Wolfe. In our troubled times, make it a personal initiative through Advent (and perhaps beyond) to invoke the Holy Ghost daily, that He indeed stirs up this treasure-chest of graces we hold within ourselves and our families. Voris, by contrast, runs every last word through a filter; avoiding anything that might conflict with more personal concerns; the likes of which well address a little later. The Holy See, FSSP Apostolates Clarkdale, AZ Wolfe. The way it is done here by poikolby and some others is NOT the Catholic way taught by Jesus Himself. Finding little support, the faith infused at Baptism is stifled and choked by the thorns of the world, and it becomes easy to drift away. 15:5). Watch on EWTN's Raymond Arroyo recently interviewed two priests of the Priestly Fraternity of Saint Peter (FSSP): Fr. http://youtu.be/S_vwwajyASI. Whether you believe the Pope IS the Pope (but in grave error and behaving as a Heretic) or the Pope IS NOT the Pope (for the same reasons), the fact remains that we are all suffering Catholics, striving to restore what is birthright membership through Baptism in the True Church of Christthe Holy, Roman Catholic Church. ****** It does not matter whether folks think that those Dimond Bros. are fanatics or anything else they may think. The abandoning took place with the founding document ecclesia dei in 1988 and was made more clear in 2003 with the FSSP constitutions. Athanasius Schneider, Bp. For those who are fans of the old Far Side comic strip by Gary Larson, part of his brilliance was his ability to capture how humanity is prone to missing the obvious. Most noteworthy here is his utterly preposterous assertion that the SSPX came about in response to some amorphous weakening of the Church.. Your charge of detraction and extreme lack of charity are baseless and are based on your feelings not on objective reality. Francis called a protestant minister his brother bishopthe man has an entirely different concept of sacraments, sin, church, juristiction, etc. Nothing more and probably less. Schedule is subject to changes. From one not typical traditionalist to another (Im a sedevacantist, you know that radioactive, flea-bitten & lice infested group rejected by all,) I agree with lots of what you say. That doesnt make them schismatic; rather, it makes the pope guilty of abusing his authority. 2nd group those that attend TLM this can range from someone who may attend a weekday TLM or sunday TLM but who still likes to be involved with their local parish and who sees no problem with new mass. Father John Marcus Berg, F.S.S.P. Also, the cardinal mentioned Fr. 3:00pm Closing Talk - Fr. His work is exclusive in design, liturgically correct and unequaled in beauty. Questions: It might seem like a small misfortune, but that Colleges demise illustrates in spades the traps awaiting any future independent and stridently Catholic apostolate that seeks to foster unity among the trad diaspora. I know he is a good priest striving for holiness. Weve got bigger fish to fry. Nada. Over 160 bishops in your country and 6 in mine, along with dozens of others around the world have invited this Society of St. Peter into their diocese. It is indeed a shame that there is not a single fully traditional Catholic college in the country. I dont say any of this as a criticism of those attending and supporting SSPX chapels, or even their clergy, which also includes some fine priests. The SSPX is not under the jurisdiction of the local bishop thats why they are able to talk freely about the council and the heresy of modernism that is rampant in the church today. That constancy, Father Saguto said, is important in a world where constant change is the norm. However, sadly, the impression is often given that this is not the case. VII & that which was borne of it, a Modernist Sect, is the problem. Dayton, OH Lets be clear these men (again, including the pope) are not synonymous with the Church; rather, they are, objectively speaking, laboring for her destruction. SOLEMNMASS Fr. Rapid City, SD or Will they remain under the standard of Satan? The evidence is all around us. For those who are fans of the old Far Side comic strip by Gary Larson, part of his brilliance was his ability to capture how humanity is prone to missing the obvious. These attacks are coming from the FSSP, opus dei and novus ordo clerics working with them. Fort Wayne, IN *** A couple decades ago I wrote for a very popular trad bi-monthly which I will not name, whose editor said a now famous statement: You can tell they are Catholics by their hate. Incomplete, because it does not take sufficiently into account the living character of Tradition, which, as the Second Vatican Council clearly taught, comes from the apostles and progresses in the Church with the help of the Holy Spirit. The 1974 Declaration of Archbishop Lefebvre makes clear where the SSPX stands: The best way is to always talk about principles not personalities. http://callmejorgebergoglio.blogspot.com/2015/09/is-fsppx-going-to-celebrate-jubilee-of.html. The way they advise individuals is highly personalized. He replaces Fr. The rest would be for a forum. The SSPX did likewise, and yet will Voris call Burke a schismatic should this happen? http://youtu.be/eXxOLNRBdXw. since the doctrinal declaration of april 15th 2012 to rome made public easter 2013 priests and bishop wiiiamson saw that the society was changing its direction that archbishop lefebre had founded. The society rejects the second vatican council and the new mass although officially dont deny the validity of the sacraments as they are in the new rite. What went on at Fisher Moore College is not known. Sadly SSPX faithful went to a FSSP Priest (who I wont name) with problems in their marriages and the FSSP told these Catholics YOU ARE NOT MARRIED so sadly original sin being what it is one of the spouses took advantage of the error of the FSSP Priest left the family. Id aleeady come across 1 of them a couple of years ago. In exercising one of mine here, it must be said that the Dimond Bros. teach against several Sent.certa teachings of Holy Mother Church. +Wmson is therefore blind himself imagine St. John the Baptist (or Jesus) stating that the high priests, scribes and pharisees were good people . it comes from the intimate sense of spiritual realities which they experience. Michael Voris right now has a post up attacking the SSPX and he directly links to the FSSP site in Scotland and names Father John Emerson FSSP. Harrisburg, PA Their bad fruit is well know. South Bend, IN Indeed, contrary to what some may hear about us, we sedevacantists in reality live amidst other Catholics in peace & gracious commaraderie. I implore you to never cease telling your story. Stay away. Be convinced that He always leaves His runaways with a key to get back into the house. North American Headquarters, South Abington Twp, PA Youll note CMTV covered that school in an on-site special just as loyalties were pulling at its seams. Barbara, Michael can have his shtick back when he stops using it to attempt to squash faithful Catholics who attend the SSPX. Father Gerard Saguto, District Superior, FSSP "The thought-filled articles of Latin Mass provide an opportunity for needed reflection to help the thoughtful Catholic navigate the gauntlet of our modern secular society." Monsignor Barreiro It has all been discussed in detail in the comment section on the above link, about half way down the page. Well, Im not basing what I say on Marshall I have good friends who were there, too, on staff (though their opinions and mine do not perfectly coincide on this affair, I should add). San Diego, CA Will the FSSP issue a public statement rebuking Voris and CMTV? Saskatoon, SK I am also friends with a few current and one former FSSP priest. Naples, FL This has had supplied jurisdiction written all over it from day one, and to current, and we didnt need to have the Pope tell us this, but it ought to help the royally confused like CMTV and co. that said, no Catholic at any time ought ever to turn their back on another Catholic.. b) Moreover, I should like to remind theologians and other experts in the ecclesiastical sciences that they should feel themselves called upon to answer in the present circumstances. The greatest hurdle faced by the children of the Church in this case is coming to terms with the fact this is even possible, which one can do by applying their intellect to the situation in the light of faith, at which point the picture will become clear: Those who cling to the clarity dispensed by the Church before the Council cannot possibly be on anything other than solid ground, while those who accept the conciliar compromises are at risk of losing the faith. Catholics are watching and waiting. Regardless of how we categorize the post-conciliar popes, the Traditional movement is best served by sticking together. Sedevacantist bishops & priests interract with other Catholics, be they SSPX, those who are in diocesan life, etc. The Holy See, FSSP Apostolates Using the principle of By their fruits you will know them the FSSP is now showing more and more bad fruit. And a real hand with a hole in it stands ready to open the door. I hope for the sake of the salvation of souls and the good of the Church that the whole story is known. http://sspx.org/, Dear marian, All the doctors had it wrong and he wasnt dead then he made up a story. If there is a so-called "schism" next month, that will affect the Modernist Sect which occupies diocesan parishes everywhere only. Priest Training Workshops Paul has been designing and carving ecclesiastical interiors for the past several years. Thanks for the levity. In this letter, the North American District Superior of the FSSP, the Rev. 5: The problems with the FSSP are doctrinal: Honestly, we all need to be quite compassionate towards one another and realize that we know nothing about each other except that we love the Faith. If you are going to give official platforms to statements rejecting the validity of Vatican II and the Pauline Missal without any public correction or disavowal, you have to be prepared to take the ecclesiastical consequences, whether theyre just or not. This public disputation between Verrecchio and Voris is not only interesting, but important, and is an excellent vehicle for attracting those in the margins the more rough and tumble Catholics who would not otherwise be exposed to the crisis in the Church to enter the fray. Where are the readers of this blog who have had enough of this detraction and gossip? Will the FSSP issue a public statement saying that Father Wolfe does not speak for the FSSP and his views are his own? If Ratzinger is leading people to hell, denying the divinity of Jesus Christ, contradicting Jesus Christ (re: valid covenant of Jews) and committing sacrilege, Ratzinger is NOT good. Most of the time unfortunately it falls into a type of group. Richmond, VA Thomas Paprocki. Ad majorem Dei gloriam. the point central to the sedevacantist position -that being the Roman Catholic Religion. Saguto (FSSPDistrict Superior) 31 May 4:30pm St. Victor Church in Hollywood (Los Angeles) ORGANPROCESSIONAL Organist: Meaghan King 120. by Fr. The priest claimed that his superior forbid him from submitting to fingerprinting and that out of obedience he had to refuse to follow the diocesan policy. I was reading the blogger Leo over on Catholic Truth Scotland and he said a priest once described Vatican II as human respect, dogmatized. Richard M, It may seem ironic, but I have zero tolerance for that. Sometimes we are trite, blunt, even silly. * Sunday Mass at St. Paul's College Chapel, Ponsonby. Mr. Miguel Flores-Perez ('02), and Rev. Perhaps bc of those such as yourself who have been poorly & even cruelly treated by a sedevacantist somewhere along the line, some proceed to make vast generalizations. FSSP Events I have a great devotion to our lords most sacred heart i go mass first fridays make a few holy hours in the week recite the litany of sacred heart etc , i kept coming across the argument , its replacing devotion to the sacred heart which in my case wasnt true. May God reward you for all your kind generosity! For anyone who wishes to gain knowledge on the position, the information is out there. The leadership of the FSSP and the Bishop of Father Paul Nicholson need to do their duty. The FSSP constitutions in 2003 bound the FSSP to the document that contains lies and heresy. I have a certain admiration for Fr. Servant of Our Lady, ** (Ive read more of his ramblings than I care to acknowledge.). They remind me of that commercial where the woman walks up to the counter to pay for something and the girl says, I need to see your I.D. and the woman says, But Im your Mother! The FSSP really is apart of the novus ordo. This is a defense of the SSPX not an attack on FSSP or Father Wolfe, personally. john6, I understand there is a diabolical disorientation going on, which is difficult for many priests to recover from, but devotion to the divine mercy chaplet only exacerbates the disorientation, I have noted. Atlanta, GA Positively, perspective and vigor can also be reclaimed by personal initiative and vigilance to make sure we do not get into ruts with the things that are supposed to be most important, that we are mindful of the obvious in such matters (kind of ironic when you hear it said that way). Gerard Saguto, FSSP and Fr. but they have an interesting video which I have linked to several times (not sure anyone has watched it), but they make a point re: +Wmson thinking that Ratzinger is a good person. Wolfe: Schism is not something that comes into being by a legal declaration. Gruner were very sensational to say the least. And weather.) Father Wolfe FSSP is the Priest the sermon is linked at the end of this blog: This meant telling them to avoid the New Mass altogether and then he was horrified by the fruits of ecumenism. Dear marian, We have been baptized into Christs death, the greatest act of love ever displayed and graciously made available to all. Did the FSSP help the SSPX in this injustice? Wolfe FSSP is true and public. I dont follow Mr. Voris. dear john6, I was still reading his blog almost daily when it all transpired, and can remember it not sitting well with me after hearing his explanations. St. Catharines, ON Only God can do that. Priestly Fraternity of St, Peter (FSSP) poses a whole slew of ecclesiological, doctrinal and moral problems. addressed to TWN, Presumably because (generally speaking) the FSSP priests avoid directly criticizing the dangers inherent in the new Mass and the Council (as Voris once did) as well as the words and deeds of the pope. I must admit, I am not a typical traditionalist but have read my way through hours of debate over the defense of tradition and have come across many resources, such as this forum, that have given me a formation that I wouldnt have guessed having even just 5 years ago while still assuming that I am even to this day light years away. In the meantime, Im glad to say that I now fully support you and have put my money where my mouth is. Vancouver, BC Fr. This cannot become ho-hum, but we know there is always a danger of that, or getting stuck in a rut. We are semi-contemplative Marian Sisters, which means that, while we pray the full Divine Office in common and have 1-1/2 hour of mental prayer each day, we also . Wigratzbad Seminary Dear piokolbe and/or radtrad, What exactly is a Novus Ordo Traditionalist? Someone who favors a reform of the Reform N.O., or someone who attends a TLM as authorized under Summorum Pontificum? Edmonton, AB I am not a follower of the Dimonds, may God forbid. San Diego, CA Im glad you agree that Fisher Mores story is so important. But they didnt. Theres an old definition of fanatic as someone who can change neither his mind, nor the subject. Ive recently come across many of his sermons online and found them to be quite useful. The FSSP are bad actors. than we do. If Terry Carroll was just another CMTV premium member with an axe to grind, would Michael Voris have done this same about face? This is sophomoric at best. 1st group attend the new mass at local parishes this ranges from sunday catholics too conservative and everything in between can comprise of people who dont make good use of the sacraments to parish council types , eucharistic ministers etc. No they did not. Let Voris live in his blissful world. Pastor of Queen of the Holy Rosary in Vienna. Pequannock, NJ Confraternity of St. Peter North American Headquarters, South Abington Twp, PA. That said, no Catholic at any time ought ever to turn their back on another Catholic. I hope thats OK. For example, I dont think that grasping issues, as you put it, Alarico is at all key or even important. She looks forward to any opportunities she may have to care for the beautiful families in this community! john6 I am so sorry that this has been your lot, its heart rending. Thank you Barbara! The thought of home is something that is written into the heart of every human being; while often times it brings to mind a physical house or location, it goes deeper. In the event that a request were made in the future, the present restrictions on Father Sagutos ministry could only be lifted after our normal review process, which would have to include a recommendation from the Ministerial Review Board of the Archdiocese of St. Paul and Minneapolis, Archbishop Hebda added. In a Nov. 15 statement, Archbishop Bernard Hebda said the recall of Father Gerard Saguto, FSSP, was taken in response to an issue that had surfaced in trauma counseling undertaken voluntarily by Father Saguto and brought by him to the attention of his superiors. Thank you, john6. St. Catharines, ON There is a growth in insight into the realities and words that are being passed on. I love the Saint so much. A commenter on Twitter recently asked me if I am "officially a sedevacantist.". De maria. I feel sorry for Michael Voris. You do not have a right to hear anymore from me. And yes, most especially under the duress we all endure. Terry Carroll, like his pastor, did too, and that personal vendetta against the Society (and unwillingness to go full bore after the dangers associated with the Council, the new Mass, and the actions of the pope) has since been adopted by Michael Voris as well. This comes about in various ways. FSSP NA on YouTube all the time & with mutually expressed warmth. 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