Ezra Taft Benson - Civic Standards for the Faithful Saints - start at min mark 11:30. The relationship of Ezra's Eagle to Daniel's 4 Beasts - and what nations the first 3 beasts were. With this we can rid ourselves of all fear and ridicule of others and have confidence that we are taking the right path. It strikes me how much the church has changed even in my life time The increase skepticism and unbelief is remarkable.I can remember G.C .talks on having your calling and election made sure and the importance of hearing the more sure word of prophesy. Kimberly, Im not sure I see the need to come down so hard on Mary Ann, I appreciate what she put together here. Theres nothing inherently evil about having direct communication with Christ or heavenly Mother. It is only by the Spirit that I know that The Church of Jesus Christ or Latter-Day Saints is a true church or that Joseph Smith was a true Prophet or that The Book of Mormon is true or that Jesus is the Christ and His Atonement is real. Are you an author? Should they ignore the 5-7 years of hell and miraculous recovery they endured/obvserved trying to follow previous revelation that produced "good fruit", roll the dice, and basically tell the Lord, "I didn't learn a thing last time! If we just use good judgement we will already be able to expose the lies. Mike Stroud is teaching all of these NEW and EXPERIMENTAL concepts that are NOT based on any scriptural truths or words of the Prophets. God has made our spirits a very tight fit with our bodies for the duration of mortality. While it is true that we teach of visions and angelic ministrants and such we also teach of the adversarys counterfeits as well and the imperative of learning to discern between deception and Godly instruction. | Jan 1, 2002. Comparing oneself to others cannot make that person any more of what they are nor does it make the other persons any less than what they are. So instead of making real spiritual progress, they substitute it by comparing themselves to others or worse, by putting others down. This document was basically their attempt to establish that. When I read about stuff like this and considering the alt-right elders quorum lesson I just sat throughrailing on the liberal media, pro-choicerers, and advocating shunning your out-of-the-close relativesand then you look at the research on millennials from Jana Reiss and what appears to me as the obvious needed direction moving towards more moderate/liberal views on these issues, it seems like some sort of schism is unavoidable. In my previous post, I poked a little bit at Lynn Bryson. by FreedomJess August 19th, 2021, 11:10 pm, Post who have extraordinary experiences with God.. Did you think to ask Father in heaven to forgive you of your sin in the name of Jesus Christ? Many have felt so alone they have succumbed to suicide. Mike and Bryce explain why understanding the truth is so vitally important. Use the Information in this Book to Prepare for What Comes Next. 26 I know when Stroud got excommunicated, Julie Rowe suggested she would likely suffer the same fate (though I didnt get the impression it was imminent). I've never seen or heard of any of the Revelation/interpretation as he has stated from the Church or our Prophets. I think there are many in the church who are in possession of this Spirit and it is the quickest path to perfection and the Zion state for the church as a whole. In modern times we are seeing Kimberly and her associates making the same claim. View all posts by Mary Ann. I am a convert, as a teenager, and against the wishes of my father (an atheist). But as far as our spiritual eyes are concerned, there is no hierarchy. Have you read A Course in Miracles? While I still dont know the specific basis of the determination of apostacy, your comment provides some context in addition to those few podcasts, Mary Anns article, and Bellamys comments. I think Brother Stroud left orbit some time ago. This is the official page for Michael B. Whether Spencer had the experience or not is irrelevant. Refusing to accept a gift might be what you meant, and yes, that would be rude and there might be no more offer of gift. With the Come Follow Me program we are asked to have discussions instead of lessons. DSC, I agree that the church has always dealt with apostasy from either side (its interesting to compare Malcom Jeppsens early 1990s bell curve of membership to the December 2015 Enemies Slide released by MormonLeaks things really havent changed all that much). Michael and Amy began their career in the San Francisco Bay Area working for Ernst & Young, and started raising their family of six children. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWBwS6IL4Js&t=27s youtube.com The Father's Message to the latter-day Gentiles This video discusses a message that the Father commanded His Son Jesus Christ to share with the Nephites - which would be of great benefit to the Gentiles in. Mike was not contradicting the Savior at all here. Michael B. Here we have the author making another conclusion that leaves you wondering where in the world it came from. Excommunication. I do write down what Im told what I learn, often in a blog post of my own. Many people seek dominion and amen to the priesthood of those men. If the answer is because moderating a position on something is more compatible with what the Savior taught, then absolutely I agree. Michael B. [1] There were a few other moments in the podcasts where I cringed, but I doubt they wouldve played into any discipline. That is what made Mike Stroud one of the most dangerous False teachers in the church. Guys if this religion can not connect us in this life with the divine. I was sickened to hear Visions of Glory was banned from Desert Book. If they testify to the reality of the spiritual world and that the gifts of the spirit may be enjoyed in this life they get the modern equivalent of being burned at the Stake. How can we discuss or share experiences if we are afraid that we will be labeled as extreme or potentially get excommunicated for seeking after what Joseph Smith taught we should all be seeking after and that is our second comforter experience. Mike is addressing this subject which the author refutes as not based on scripture or the words of prophets. Its a bit strong (evoking images of the occult), but the idea of requesting a specific heavenly messengers by name does seem unusual. Such drug usage stands in sharp contrast to his love of studying the Book of Mormon, earning him a reputation among his friends as a scriptorian. He says he became a man obsessed only with learning about faith, not following. Conscience and Community: Sterling M. McMurrin, Obert C. Tanner, and Lowell L. Bennion. The Chaplain wrote a complaint in the base newsletter about people preferring to go to the mountains on the Sabbath, which included me. Separation is another illusion brought about by the fall. Were it up to me I would leave some roles unfilled rather than put uninspired, unworthy persons in there. 117 N Sumner Ave, Rush Jennifer Zabinski Miller Michael B; 12/24/20. This seems to have made Stroud more comfortable speaking out again. Stroud also recommended asking for visitations from specific Book of Mormon individuals. And there are other examples from the past year. Jana Riess research on Millennials: churchistrue quick take, Another Podcaster Excommunicated, But Maybe Not For the Reason You Think. Mike Stroud may have bore testimony of the church and the Brethren in one breath but in the next he bore testimony of the fact that their job is only one of a preparatory role. *FREE* shipping on qualifying offers. My heart hurts. We are all equal. Im not sure how anything King Follett fits in one way or the other. Heroically. Im not sure I have desires with regard to what God may offer. ], Mary Ann i generally agree with your analysis . Michael B. Jordan and Lori Harvey are saying goodbye to paradise. But I have read a lot of other material on enlightenment. And now about their doc. The Church will make some faction angry with any move they make. by Maroriginal1 August 23rd, 2021, 1:27 pm. The newly-confirmed couple was seen leaving the Caribbean island of St. Barts together after several days soaking up the sun. These men and women called to this ministry have an assignment in a future day when hopelessness and despair, destruction and death rule the day to go into these nations and through priesthood power and the gifts of the Spirit find these lost ones who have no hope of deliverance and bring them through miraculous ways superseding time and space and deliver them to places of safety and refuge set up by the Lord in his wisdom throughout the world, [57:26] Many of them will be translated in the flesh, as in ancient times, so as to be able to fulfill this mission successfully to bring these redeemed of the Lord to Zion. Shiver me timbers! Whats with that? Welcome to my YouTube channel! Follow this link to a Book of Mormon discussion on the moral fiber of the Stripling Warriors "Talking Scripture" Alma 53-63. I have a doubt I do anything out of love, I do things because I care. And unrighteous dominion thrives. It was a well attended meeting and there was a good spirit there. Those who are truly learned in the things of God have learned to recognize such and if they condemn someones claims, claiming itself being a huge red flag, they do so with an understanding and recognition of what is absent to validate the claims. Hierarchy is a perception of of the fallen state We perceive that it exists because of our natural eyes. Michael is a top 10 best selling author in his respective genre. Well I can say for those of us as lifers and close to retirement have all seen a culture change. Where he is mistaken then we are all in it together, a better thing than a church with many heads and no direction. And trust and hope wanes., Indeed they do, it does. His apology sounds like something he did in response to counsel from leaders to avoid discipline in the first place. They used fear all throughout this doc hoping to convince the reader that Mike Stroud is some kind of boogie man. As one who shall obtain. Many complained of demon possession and having false spirits torment them for months after doing as Mike Stroud suggested. Rush is the author of A Remnant Shall Return, Daniel 11, and Revelation the Vision of John the Divine. And by the power of the Holy Ghost ye may know the truth of all things. There is a reason why Heavenly Father has given us this miraculous gift because there is small portions of truth found everywhere and absolute truth is only found in Christ. by ransomme August 20th, 2021, 3:44 pm, Post I would like to invite all who have served missions in Spanish-speaking or Portuguese-speaking countries, if you can, to refer these podcast lessons to those men and women that you worked with in the mission field and put them in touch with the Spanish translation of these Book of Mormon lessons and well soon have the first lessons in Portuguese. (Podcast 012: 1 Nephi 12, abt 20:19), The reason I suspect this was an issue is that in Strouds podcast where he announces his excommunication, he notes that he is only continuing the series at the encouragement of his children. Then, lets take it a step further. 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