Do you mind me asking what make your glasses are? Simon are you familiar with Redmayne 1860s MTM service and, if so, between Redmaynes 1860 Acclaim MTM and W&S classic bespoke, which would be better quality? Also for the sake of comparison would the drawbacks of mtm for soft tailoring (disregarding fit as obvious) be less of the hand details. Thanks for all the informative articles. Insisting on something still identifiable as W & S, bearing Bob and Johns beautiful fingerprints but of much softer construction, I was reassured with confidence by Suresh. But as I live in Geneva, and Varese would not be such a long drive from here, would Sartoria Vergallo also be a great option for high-end bespoke at relatively good prices? Thanks for advice. Our coats are fully handmade with floating canvases. Youll have to contact them. I cant afford full Savile Row or top Neapolitan prices for my bespoke fetish, so I first read this review with great interest. Just one point on pricing. I will do something longer on his system though, so I can give as many details as possible. Interesting article. I always try and relax and dont rush my fittings. Whitcomb & Shaftesbury, Whitcomb & Shaftesbury is based on George Street in Mayfair, just a few paces from Savile Row, and offers two bespoke services: its Savile Row Bespoke service, which is made in the conventional fashion in on-site workrooms, and Classic Bespoke, which is cut in London and made in the brands workshop in Chennai, India. There is a lot of confusion about the difference between tailored and bespoke. Similarly for General Eyewear, great guys and i am very happy with the end result. As has been mentioned, your tie is stunning, but sadly it doesnt feature in Drakes current line up. Whitcomb might have a slightly greater range in style than Sexton, but not much. I am unsatisfied considering GB is 850 but their forte is not in this style of tailoring. Re your question from Anonymous above, Des had made me a couple of garments. First fitting was very compromised. I am split between Graham Browne and Whitcomb. I hesitate to say Whitcomb have done something wrong, as my experience and that of others has been so good, but that sounds like the most likely conclusion. By subscribing, I agree to the Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. Thats largely due to length of the jacket, and a slightly fuller skirt. Worth stating again perhaps that no judgments on fit should be made from photos. ), That means 3-4 visits for the first suit. The result may be due to specifics in my case. The fact is that I havent had the fortune to connect with any Neapolitan tailors like I have a couple in London, so I asked Suresh what they were comfortable with. "For bespoke needs, Suresh and I opened Whitcomb & Shaftesbury on Savile Row. I also expect that you may receive favorable treatment in many instances, possibly skewing the actual standard of service. Got it, thanks. Thank you very much for your assistance. Cloth - Suits Read More Artisan of the Year 2021: Whitcomb & Shaftes. They opened first in Brunswick Square, in 1806, originally specialising in military tailoring, with particular merit at the time of the Battle of Waterloo. Whitcomb & Shaftesbury makes hand made bespoke suits and shirts using traditional tailoring techniques Whitcomb & Shaftesbury Impressive finish, congratulations! So basically I will be sad 4 days a week for a while! Before you raise an . Great post Simon, really enjoyed. Thanks for your advice though, its useful. Thanks! and lovely to talk to. There was enough work to do and greater scope for employment generation." http . However, how far does that extend to? And to be honest, that suggests to me you might be overanalysing this a bit but again, raise it with the tailor and see what they say. Photography: Jack Lawson. I wanted to share my experience at W&S. This will offer better value than any MTM service, by some margin. Simon I live in Geneva but get over to London at least once a year sometimes up to 3 times a year although never with any great predictability. Our bespoke suits are made without compromise by the best craftsmen in Savile Row. Dear Simon, Yes, Edward is more dramatic and youll find the drape style more comfortable during the day at work too. To be worn with knit ties and open neck shirts to dinners and casual events in summer? In my case, a long body and short legs! Classic Race Simulators Showroom Tripadvisor: I really like the dramatic asymmetry in your tie knots. I particularly like the drama of Edward Sexton cuts in subtle fabrics, similar to your grey flannel suit. Its old Kilgour, closest to A&S probably. The quality is similar, just with the price saving coming from the overseas make (presuming thats what you went for). Id pick between the two on style more than anything else. Could you give more information on the stitching point and the fit? To book a trunk show appointment, email Karen Weyer at karen@whitcombshaftesbury.com. We wanted clients to be able to fit garments quickly while travel is open. So, if youre intrigued to try an impeccable bespoke tailor with impressive ethical credentials, you know where to go. Coming up on the PS Shop this Autumn/Winter, Tailoring for travelling: tough, comfortable, plain, my post on the bespoke service at Whitcomb & Shaftesbury, Simonnot-Godard via Mes Chaussettes Rouges, Whitcomb & Shaftesbury RAF-blue suit: Style Breakdown, Artisan of the Year 2021: Whitcomb & Shaftesbury, Edward Sexton offshore bespoke tailoring. I might someday soon be able to have a quality bespoke suit as this falls within my budget. B.) Hi Simon Really pleased although I think there might be some mistake I dont have a fitting in a toile. i.e. But then youre paying over twice the price. Simon's books and product collaborations are available to buy through the Permanent Style shop. But yes, you can certainly request a little less. Whitcomb also recruited a third, younger cutter, Sian Walton, formerly of Thom Sweeney, Alexander McQueen and Kilgour. How would you compare the style and quality of a W&S suit to either A&S or Steven Hitchcock? The quality of his work surpasses anything I have had from the Row, or any of the big name French or Italian tailors often named here. I dont have the cloth number, but I can get it. For example, can the lapel width (not shape necessarily) be extended slightly? Also, is their normally a third fitting?. I also havent asked about those kind of changes, so Im not sure. Im looking forward to commissioning a suit for my wedding next March. Curious on the lapel width used here. Yes, a small change in lapel width is fine. I was able to travel to London to meet Sian for the basted fitting. Whitcomb & Shaftesbury offer two types of service: both cut and fitted in London, but one mostly made in India ('Classic Bespoke') the other made in London ('Savile Row Bespoke'). shoes, shirts, etc.)? It is just one mans opinion but going in I was definitely expecting more. After much internet research and reading your recommendation I have taken the plunge with W&S. Free shipping for many products! The jacket theyve made me has jumped immediately into top place as both my best fitting AND most casually comfortable piece of clothing: the shoulders are just what I wanted, even softer (much softer) than in the suit jacket; there remains, despite the soft structure, a bit of English drape that I love in the chest; and really its the waist that is absolutely sublime a perfect pinch, fitting me so well between the arm holes and waist; most of all, the skirt is truly the most beautiful Ive worn in a jacket, with even the snifter-shaped patch pockets perfectly proportioned for its exquisite lines. Simon, They are very different prices, qualities and styles. Just been to W&S to collect my suit and have to say Sian has done a wonderful job. Do you know anything about her? Hi, Thanks Simon. Includes access to the digital magazine. Although given how many issues tailors have had over the past 30 years (particularly changing business models or cutters so youre relationship goes out the window) I think theyve got as much chance of staying around as anyone. Im a student , Look up Graham Browne and Whitcomb on this site. And even if she were a bespoke cutter, Id still have confidence saying W&C is better value for money. That pocket square fold is on point. Can anything be done to rectify the situation. It looks a really nice sturdy twill from the picture. This kind of service level is something that can quickly drop out with cheaper offerings. W&S will still be more formal than pretty much anything Vergallo will produce. I dont think W&S has any different margins to other bespoke tailors. Their 'classic bespoke' service, which involves cutting the suit in London (by a very experienced Row cutter), and then having it largely made in India (in a workshop run by a Row tailor) promised fantastic value at 1350 + VAT for a suit. Next, however, I ran the risk despite your seemingly strong opinion against drawing a tailor away from his natural house style, Simon of asking Suresh to make me an even softer, more Neapolitan style sports jacket. The company has remained a family-run business since their establishment in 1806. When writing about the second suit might you include some further detail about the Cutter/Coatmaker and their views on what makes a good silhouette? When he died, his son, also named George, inherited the property and began to lease out parcels of land to tailors. Coat Details Fabric Pattern: Solid. And looking at her site, I have my fears she certainly seems to be a stylist rather than a cutter. In your opinion is this offering from W&S worth the extra cost over a GB suit ? Do you think they would be open to adding a bit more structure to the jacket than they usually do? And 100 Hands does shirts in India but as the quality is so high, its still expensive, I had a navy worsted two piece suit made at W&S which was cut by Sian. Thanks. Maybe this blog will help change that. By the way, Sian is the other cutter at Whitcomb now, and is very good in my experience. As I showed back in 2016 when I had suits made in both, there is no quality difference between the two. The twist of thread is 40 - that is for mass-market shirts; the fabric with a double twist (two ply) from 80 to 160, is used for high-quality high-quality shirts. It is another interesting approach. Pinterest. Im afraid its still some way off those at least in terms of finishing. I was wondering if you knew how prices for Saville Row Bespoke and Classic Bespoke have changed at Whitcomb & Shaftesbury since this article was written in 2016? Just focusing on the big-name tailors and dominant styles to start with. Its not the end of the world, but it certainly bugs me to face an issue which I did not face with RTW- a collar gap. Not really Im afraid Chris I havent had a chance to try it or look through the process in detail. What you may not know, though, is that while the name sounds traditional, Whitcomb & Shaftesbury has built its reputation for quality by doing things differently. I have gone for a three piece with extra trousers in the classic bespoke and this makes me feel happy! Subscribe now and save. Follow. Richard. knowing that W&S now have two cutters would it be wrong to ask for sian walton to cut more in the Thom Sweeney style ? (Living in Paris and only going from time to time to London, difficult to sync with the neapolitan tailors). Youd wear any existing suits, then gradually swap in the better ones as you buy them. If to compare, which make is most value for money? Watch. The width here is 3.75 inches. I have however been following this W&S post with interest as I use to use Kilgours semi bespoke service 10+ years ago. Apologies if Ive missed it somewhere but what is the lapel width here? I havent had a suit or jacket made in a while. Thank you, As a general rule Id want to see the cutter, but in this case Id make an exception, given Bob and everyone else have worked so closely together for a long time. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Whitcomb + Shaftesbury UK Bespoke One Button Gray Blazer-No Pants-Fit 43 Short at the best online prices at eBay! No, its a good question. Im sure youve mentioned it elsewhere but which of the Neapolitan tailors are you thinking of in particular? Among many others, it is known for the large number of ateliers located on it, Read More. 4,523 followers. Wow, I think this looks fabulous! Im going to order my first bespoke suit and I know your not supposed to wear it two days in a row and ideally once a week But then what do you wear for the rest of the week whilst your building your bespoke suit collection to the point you have 5 bespoke suits in rotation? Did the tailoring being done on the subcontinent mean that the suit took longer to make compared to their S. Row Bespoke? Ultimately, the tailor will be chosen to suit my budget. I really like how the waist is just a pitch slimming/tapered but not too slim like most fashionable suits out there now, almost uncomfortable to see let alone to wear. This site is protected by reCAPTCHA Enterprise and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply. Ill post pictures of the second one later, but there are so few differences that its barely worth pointing them out. Would be nice to see W&S in the style breakdown series. Do you think their house style could work in a deep navy seersucker SB? Ill reflect more on the overall style of Whitcomb & Shaftesbury, and where it sits relative to other tailors I have tried, when I publish the pictures of the Savile Row Bespoke suit. And it would look a touch more formal than a Neapolitan, but as long as youre happy with that (and my Gieves is similar in cut) then that would work fine. Tim Everest offered a 10/11oz super 120 fabric for 1450+VAT with full canvas and extra trousers done in six weeks at a factory in Czech. Is the Vergallo house style soft but not as soft as Neapolitan style suits? A Graham Browne suit and a Huntsman suit are traditional, structured English suits. If you want to be safe, try on something they already have and give your opinion on it. Vergallo doesnt get enough attention they remain excellent value. Between them, this trio can bring to bear a huge range of different skills. Youll find a few reviewed here, most obviously W&S, Graham Browne, Choppin & Lodge, and Manning & Manning. Thanks!! It gets made for a lot of weddings. Or do you think Ill not be happy with a W&S suit? I understand there a differences in style obviously. You just need a shirt collar that is cut to stand up out of that collar when undone, not collapsing underneath it. Im always hesitant to suggest anything might be wrong with the jackets, without seeing them in person. Have a good weekend. Really great blog. After giving myself a headache of what tailor to try next after a poor experience from a new(ish) city tailoring firm (that shall remain nameless), I commissioned a new suit from GB in Dec. A little drape like Henry Poole uses is fine, but not more. We also get your email address to automatically create an account for you in our website. I have large shoulders, am tall and have a relatively slim waist, but dont feel comfortable looking bigger. possibly a slightly unusual choice Id like you to ask about, purely subjective of course: for a first bespoke commission, if your budget was a tad higher then W&S classic say 2000-3000 would you still choose them (and add an extra trouser to get to 2k+) or go with one of the cheaper Italian tailors, say Vergallo or Solito, (at around 2200 2500) or give a young / next generation Saville Row cutter a chance (e.g. It does not matter if WS are getting some part of the work done in India, the suit looks fantastic in the photos. Graham Browne is GBP 1050 INCLUDING VAT, ie the difference in price is GBP 500, not 300 as stated in the comments. I certainly couldnt see it in any of the fittings but its the exact same thing with both tailors. See and interact with all Instagram stories @PermanentStyleLondon. This shouldnt really be surprising. This is very close to my ideal suit, though I wouldnt get the lap seam on the back, and Id get flapped hacking pockets. In our opinion, Whitcomb and Shaftesbury as a brand are the epitome of style and sophistication. They certainly could, and Id say you should expect at least two fittings ideally three (with the last one being with a finished suit, but something small needs to be tweaked always a good idea to get that tweak, painful as it may be! Im sure you have more ideas for content than you can possibly cover, so just a couple of suggestions! 11 St. George Street is a throwback to more elegant times. No, the style is different in other ways too. I think there is often a risk with bespoke that people expect perfection, and everything to have been considered for them, when it is more interactive, and does have most benefits over time. Yes, i believe it was Sian (it was a lady). Buttonholes are sewn with silk thread by hand. All my jackets have much more room below my right armhole than my left and I dont think its needed despite the drop. Some of us surely do not desire to try out lots of tailors but love and romantically hatch the idea of naturally having your tailor where you get many different things from over the years and build a trusting relationship. For sewing the shirt you can choose the following fabrics: poplin, jacquard, oxford, twill, pinpoint or herringbone. Any thoughts as to where I might find one? I mean its so majestic, amazing you should do a tutorial on it. Today. This is something most tailors dont do, but you do occasionally see it used on particularly soft or lightweight cloths. Thank you. Thank you in advance. Because theyre made specifically for each customer, they also tend to fit better than store-bought suits. If not Grahame Browne has changed his pricing? I hope someday to access (and afford) some pure Neapolitan tailoring but in our globalized world, even from a post-modern perspective purity is a questionable concept regardless. After all, people happily walk into Canali and hand over 1500 for factory made MTM suits from a block pattern I would expect to pay much closer to 2k for a bespoke product like this (which even then is still a cracking deal). Thank you very much for all your great advice! I remember you recommending MTM for those building a trouser wardrobe, but im not sure if this company would follows ideal fit, considering they outsource their labor and the cutter is not in consultation with you. As they are roughly in the same price range, I consider both of them for my first bespoke suit. Location makes no difference to me, but if you want it you can pay 1,700 for the privilege. The shoulders are quite soft and natural, although the team can certainly do more roping if requested. Hi Simon, I know comparing tailors from Italy and England is like comparing apples and pears (style wise), but just from a quality perspective how would you compare Sartoria Vergallo to this W&S offering? Were lucky that our workshop allows us to turn fittings around for clients relatively quickly while keeping total control of quality, Suresh explains. As far as London-based bespoke tailors go, the house has gained an impressive reputation for quality in recent years, with rave reviews from the likes of Permanent Style. Im also based at Mortimer House, on the 6th floor. Solito, Dalcuore, Caliendo and Rubinacci (in ascending order of price! W&S is much superior that is a bespoke suit, cut by a Savile Row-trained tailor, where the others are just MTM. Yes, I would recommend them for a first suit. How many fittings would you say one need to work in to have a W&S suit made, and could these be spaced out over a year or so? The fabric will be high quality and the stitching will be precise and flawless.Secondly, a bespoke suit will always be perfectly tailored to the individual. hi Simon, very interesting article. Whitcomb & Shaftesbury Bespoke Navy Wool Savile Row Classic Fishtail Trousers LNWOT BIG GUYS Paolo Martorano Bespoke Mid Grey Fresco Hopsack Explorer Pants #1 LNWOT BIG GUYS Paolo Martorano Bespoke S110s Italian Wool Draped Gabardine Pants + 69.35 Postage + 2.22 VAT will apply Shop with confidence eBay Premium Service The only thing youd be looking for is a difference in execution and there are some tiny points there. See how much you wear it and what you enjoy about it, at least for a while. Say, could I ask the tailor whether he would be willing or able to make a Huntsman-style jacket I fear he would feel rather offended.. Purely on craft, yes Id choose someone like Jennie. I guess this is relevant to the greatest number of people in the context of a bespoke suit, and it would great to know what are the key points that should be thought about (choice of cloth etc.). Would W&S be a good option. Is your W&S suit cuted with a similar amount of drape or more? Apr 11, 2018 - Whitcomb & Shaftesbury final suit - great value bespoke. It is not bespoke as with Floris and leads customers to the existing range via a Q and A. It seems to have a bit of drape, and the shoulders arent too military? I am no expert in cloth so I can very easily have been mistaken and, of course, you know better than I what you have being made. Quite affordable at $500/600 trousers. An appealing option cost wise compared to what some charge for RTW, and safe in the knowledge that the factory workers have been paid a fair wage. Yes I think so, it has a great feeling to it. Whitcomb & Shaftesbury is based on George Street in Mayfair, just a few paces from Savile Row, and offers two bespoke services: its Savile Row Bespoke service, which is made in the conventional fashion in on-site workrooms, and Classic Bespoke, which is cut in London and made in the brand's workshop in Chennai, India. Back in October there was a lot of interest around my post on the bespoke service at Whitcomb & Shaftesbury. We specialise in handcrafted bespoke suits that are constructed from the finest natural materials and express a timeless elegance. Having said that moreso that the fit quality shines through. In this article, Linus will be reviewing the final product of the trousers. For years, we had our suits made, explains Suresh, and we both felt that you could find good product, but it was a struggle to find good advice. All bespoke has small margins and much higher production costs money spent on making, rather than selling. Im thinking very seriously about commissioning a suit from W&S, using their Classic Bespoke service. W&S was at about the same price point without the extra trousers for a super 100 9/10 oz made in seven weeks in India. And if the Italians with their inherent expressiveness dress brightly, boldly Read More, Mens accessories: the image of a man It is undeniable that the image consists of details. Edge tapes, hems and linings are completely felled by hand. Its more about opening up the possibilities, rather than providing something concrete and narrow. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Bespoke Cashmere Wool Safari Jacket Drakes London Style - 2500 In Blue (Large) at the best online prices at eBay! And hands out of pockets do allow a superior view of cut and style.. nice one. Is sufficient to have the master coatmaker in the fittings or you absolutely need to see the cutter? The chest, lapel and collar are still hand-padded; the buttonholes are finely hand-stitched; every other area of finishing youd expect from Savile Row bespoke (eg hand-stitching the lining of the waistband) is there. Simon, have you tried a MTM service such as MyTailor in the United States? The program helped to rehabilitate families whod had been affected by the tsunami, giving them new ways to earn a living, Suresh explains. This is a proper Savile Row suit. There are cheap Neapolitan tailors coming to London use them instead if thats the look you want. I mean, top quality stuff for about a 1/3 of the price. Have a look at our Suit style series for other advice too, Sorry if im asking something youve already been asked, but are there any other comparable offerings in this price range/overseas production for a first foray in to bespoke, or are W&S out there on their own in this regard. What is bespoke suit - Whitcom & Shaftesbury What is bespoke suit May 12, 2022 whitcombands 7:49 am Savile Row bespoke suit To commission a bespoke suit is the epitome of sartorial luxury. As bespoke is new to me, for both pieces i did my best to educate myself beforehand, but naturally must rely on the experience of the service provider. Their classic, bespoke suits and coats will be accurately fitted to the exact measurements of your body. Like all English pretty much, its just too sharp and structured. Simon quick question. Great service and advice. Could you also compare the house styles of both tailors? Whilst acknowledging that the intent of any bespoke tailoring is to enhance and flatter the wearer, I would be interested to read more about the tricks of the trade used to mitigate different physical challenges. With a virtually unlimited choice of fabrics and style, there is no limitation except your imagination. I assume she was one of the people that fitted you? For Whitcomb & Shaftesbury i cant say that i feel they provided a great deal of guidance. Whitcomb & Shaftesbury is based on George Street in Mayfair, just a few paces from Savile Row, and offers two bespoke services: its Savile Row Bespoke service, which is made in the. Drakes MTM program is priced only slightly above its RTW, so its something Ive wondered about a lot as I try and build my own tailoring wardrobe, especially of softer styles. I look forward to reading about your experience in the near future. And although some of these details werent perfect on the examples I saw in the Whitcomb & Shaftesbury workrooms, this lap seam was very nicely done. Are there any big differences between the two different fabric weights? (Which one imagines is the standard 6-9 weeks. I have 2 W+S suits now and have been happy with both (both business suits). It almost feels like cheating. I explicitly did not make any comments about the suit while it was cut, except answers to questions I was asked. There isnt necessarily a third fitting, but there will usually be one or two small things that its worth refining if its your first suit. They have outfitters (not tailors) who measure you, and their cutters/tailors are in Hong Kong. Buttonholes are sewn with silk thread by hand. Their business moved to Savile Row in 1846, following the death of founder James Poole. Would you recommend high rise or mid rise? Really like the balance and proportions of this particular suit, perhaps it would be worthy of a style breakdown sometime? Once your account is created, you'll be logged-in to this account. As a more extreme example how does it compare to your C&M and Cifonelli suits: if you say its nearly as good that may change everything!! No its certainly worth asking, but do try to be specific in what you would like. Though no, its a noticeable but not huge difference to go for 11oz rather than 13oz, I have suits in both. Thanks for your reply Simon. Thanks Simon. If Im not completely wrong, but the diffrence in price is not that very big. English style in mens clothing England has always been one of the poles of mens fashion along with Italy. I wonder if you could tell me, from your experience, about the rough timeframe of this process. Hi Ethan, I initially thought I would go for A&S as I love the style and think they would guide me through the process extremely well. Hi Lewis, Someone asked that recently on the post announcing their US tour. Hi Richard Eventually, in a visit to London last summer, I had W & S make me a versatile grey flannel three-piece and I was extremely pleased: absolutely wonderful cut and fit, and exquisite hand finishing. It looks a bit like Anderson & Sheppard and Dege & Skinner. Kind Regards If I request a little less drape, is the W&S suit then comparable to a Henry Poole or G&H suit? Can you confirm the exact fabric for reference if it is navy rather than the mid blue the photographer has managed to make it look like? Vergallo would be a great starting point. And no, I dont think its appropriate for business. I dont know if thats the right thing to do but thats my gut feeling! This is great to know. Used to work with John at Kilgour, then at Thom Sweeney and at McQueen for a bit, So I presume you would have no hesitation in using W&S even if you were not working with John McCabe, Would you recommend W&S for a relaxed soft shouldered cashmere jacket to be worn with chinos and jeans? Im glad to say that this promise is fulfilled. P.S. Such are the hassles of bespoke tailoring. Wonderful. And the buttonholes have had a machine stitch on the back as a guide, before being finished by hand. From what Ive seen of the Huntsman service its good, but it is expensive for what it is. Ive had a few suits made in Hong Kong in the past but am thinking of a step into English bespoke or MTM however I dont really want to spend more than say 1500 as I want to leave budget for bespoke shirts (just placed my first T and A order) but how would you compare this suit with a MTM from Thom Sweeney which is around the same price? So the variation in style is house to house, rather than cutter to cutter. I was hoping that you might be able to recommend a particular type of fabric. Im more interested in the actual craft. Thanks! I am considering a suit commission using W&S and I personally like a wider lapel as it looks better for my body type (proportionally larger chest and smaller waist). He values fit above everything, but as he does all the work himself, it is a very easy relationship. . So I would go to Sexton for their style, and to Whitcomb for theirs. 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