No. I can't in good conscience not include Manu in the Pyramid. 1989 The Soul Stirrers Devo (Level 1) The Ramones are a case in point. 8/10 = No Brainers I too personally dislike thier music except "Express Yourself" and I just don't understand why so meny praise them when all they did was steer rap down a more gangester and racist path. 112. Young Frankenstein Join us for a Stathead virtual panel to kick off the 2022-23 NBA Season on October 12 at 7pm ET. Booker T. and the M.G.s Roger Daltrey is involved with the Teenage Cancer Trust. They kept Sabbath out for a while (dumb call). For an Early Influence, I would pick Cab Calloway or The Ravens. It's pathetic. Buddy Holly & The Crickets: 10/10 1/10 = Not even worth of mention Impossible to answer (aka the effects of various substances) - if you just mean flamboyant, then Little Richard. The Rolling Stones: 10/10 "Darling Dear" The Jackson Five. Probably 1993 (Doors & CCR), or else the first two classes (lots of 50's/early 60's favorites). Darlene Love: 3/10 ZZ Top: 7/10 Elvis Presley: 10/10 1993 192. Deep Purple (Level 2) 60. When is this pyramid gonna get updated with the class of 2017??? GNR: 9/10 In the pilot episode of TBOB Rewatchables, recorded earlier this year on The Bill Simmons Podcast, Bill re-lives that historic night with The Ringers Chris Ryan and Joe House. The only artist from the last two years that I'd move up would be Nine Inch Nails. 5. Over here in Britain May has been a wildlife activist and critic of fox-hunting No. 4. 2010 " Albert King (lower 3rd) 91. https://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/2020/01/every-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-inductee-ranked-from-best-to-bon-jovi.html If he comes back 100% and leads Brooklyn to a title? Posted by Mike on Thursday, 02/6/2014 @ 14:58pm, 1. Posted by Plebeian on Wednesday, 05/4/2022 @ 09:25am, Posted by Plebeian on Wednesday, 05/4/2022 @ 09:26am. "(You Can't Let the Boy Overpower) The Man In You" Chuck Jackson Little Willie John: 6/10 The Clash: 10/10 Quietest: Musically, James Taylor. The second part was a run as the second-best Robin of all-time. Muddy Waters The architect of the Rock Hall, I.M. The Hobbit Andrew - Just so you know, this Pyramid only includes acts that are in the actual Hall of Fame. The Cars Inductee that should have been first-ballot (again, don't answer Rush*)? Gladys Knight & The Pips: 7/10 Register for this free event . 133. Biggest botch Most influential besides The Beatles, Elvis Presley, and Chuck Berry? The Rock Hall rarely misses the no-brainer inductees. Amen and speak the truth! 106. Dr. John and the Miracles That's all I have. Well, nice as that was, the moment is passed, and the Ramones are virtually irrelevant to the contemporary musical landscape. Jerry Lee Lewis and The Everly Brothers should both go up in their rankings. I think she brought so little to the table talent-wise, evolution-wise. He could've gone anywhere, but to Golden State and nobody would've held a grudge outside of those weirdos in Oklahoma. - See more at: http://whoisbigger.com/#sthash.msMujDin.dpuf, Posted by Darrin A on Sunday, 12/15/2013 @ 12:43pm. 103. You missed question #5 Little Richard: 10/10 Public Enemy (lower 2nd) Dwayne Wade [up from Level 3, below Walton]. Powered by SMF | "That's What Love Is Made Of" Michael Jackson, Bobby Vee, Choker Campbell, The Magicians. Posted by Plebeian on Wednesday, 05/12/2021 @ 23:27pm, 2020 Level 4 Manu was damn good and didn't get the traditional accolades to back it up. For new additions (NOT New Edition) to Level 5, I nominate Aerosmith, and either Aretha Franklin or Michael Jackson. Lloyd Price: 4/10 Kingdom of Heaven ***. Admittedly quite bad, but he's already represented without the halo effect. Traffic Favorite Hip-Hop inductee? Donovan: 7/10 Reserved for acts who are definitely Hall of Famers, but don't quite possess a Level 3 rsum for one or more of the following reasons: In the since this pyramid was first devised the lower levels have been filled with new inductees and they are certainly not multiples of 12 anymore. Earl Monroe, 76. Plays. 46. The 2017 and 2018 inductees are not in the pyramid yet! Neil Diamond "I Gotta Dance to Keep From Crying" The Who, Jimmy James. 36. The Band: 9/10 The 2011 Finals might be the single most impressive accomplishment by a NBA player in my lifetime. Yeah, the Pyramid's bias toward 60s musicians is palpable. Distantly tied for third includes Flavor Flav, Lennon ("I'm starting a new religion, and I'm calling it baggism"), Sly Stone. As far as the 2013 inductees are concerned and their tier placement is concerned: Posted by Jason Voigt on Wednesday, 09/26/2018 @ 14:03pm. Posted by Enigmaticus on Wednesday, 10/22/2014 @ 09:34am, In my honest opinion, Rush should also be placed a lot higher, at least, preferably in the middle of the 4th tier, slightly lower than Pink Floyd and slightly below, soon to be inducted, Yes. 136. Pearl Jam (they stay the same, I meant for them to be in the middle) Joni Mitchell and Van Morrison at 3 should bump a few from 4.. 107. Most civilized inductee? Stevie Nicks: 3/10 15. 47. 1. http://whoisbigger.com/entity/Category:Rock_and_Roll_Hall_of_Fame_inductees I understand their attempts, and respect it to some degree. Green Day is maybe a 2. Clyde Drexler. On which levels do you think each of these artists belongs? Exactly, Posted by Matthew on Saturday, 05/25/2013 @ 12:13pm. Aerosmith Duane Eddy 3/10 = Mediocre Jackie Wilson Los Lobos 186. The Temptations: 10/10 Stevie Ray Vaughan and Double Trouble Fleetwood Mac it might just represent the next phase of sports commentary."The Atlantic Bill Simmons, the wildly CCR: 9/10 Here are the questions: Brenda Lee: 6/10 4. Note: Emails will not be visible or used in any way, but are required. Has any modern superstar ever had more career-related what ifs? James Harden is no slouch. achieve Hall of Fame status in. 1 bestselling book from 2009. "What's So Good About Goodbye" Giant Sunflower, The Temptations, Quix*O*Tic Yes - 2 Oh Wait, those dimwhits on the election committee have overlooked them again! "Swept For You Baby" The Sylvers, The Blenders, The Tamlins (as Sweat For You Baby). Whitney Houston-2, maybe 1 Greg Willard Spirit Award; NCAA Season Awards. Nina Simone Many of the Miracles' songs have been major hits or important recordings for other artists. I agree The Miracles are definitely a Level-4 act and agree with every word of your post. Bon Jovi 5/10 = Average/Borderline 7/10 = Solid Picks Bill Sharman, 60. astrodog brings up a reasonable point about Elvis Costello, especially in his comparison to The Pretenders. Posted by Yours Truly on Tuesday, 09/25/2018 @ 14:24pm, Posted by Yours Truly on Tuesday, 09/25/2018 @ 17:10pm, Sex Pistols should be moved way up, Id put them at level one in my opinion. There are a lot of critic's darlings that fade over time. Great concept! The Go-Go's-Level 1 Tier 2 - Dire Straits, The Cars, Yes, ELO 59. Deep Purple a 1???" According to the picture, that's where Level 5 is. Eagles: 9/10 I also feel EXACTLY the same about John Lennon. I actually think that every act up there is almost exactly where they should be. 18. Joni Mitchell: 9/10 If someone HAD to go for him, it would probably be Ray Charles. 15. I'm also with you on the Byrds being where they are. Bob Cousy, 23. Thank you. He without question was 'the most political of the Beatles' and I'm sure a lot of future generations looked upon him for that." Rating Numbers: Mike Roberts WVEE-FM & WQMJ 2015 70. If I had to create a pyramid from this year's nominations alone, this is how I would create it. The Go-Go's-1 One of the more underappreciated recent stars in the NBA. 49. 43. The Doobie Brothers Most snubbed before finally inducted: Hall and Oates. 94. 82. 35. "Do It Baby"- Jimmy Ponder, Red Holt (of Young-Holt Unlimited). Listen, he's going to win his 2nd MVP award at some point in the next few months. Level 2 Ive listened to almost every Simmons podcast episode on NBA stuff in the past year during my commutes, which is honestly way too much time :sweat_smile: . ELO I agree about John Lennon. Grandmaster Flash & Furious Five: 8/10 Pat Benatar He finished Top 10 in MVP voting 4 times. I have compiled all of them into the list below with corresponding dates. Simmons led . Before his ACL, he was the best player in the league. "The Hurt is Over" The DT's Joan Baez: 6/10 Dylan, Buddy Holly, Led Zep, Hendrix Pat Benatar (Level 1) Tina Turner is solely on Level 2 for star power and that's it. Posted by AlexVoltaire on Monday, 09/24/2018 @ 10:45am. And oh, yeah, let's get the Moody Blues IN before we decide which tier they should be on. Either you have the music and the accomplishments or you don't. We already have the news to educate ourselves on sociopolitical affairs anyway. Why was the last minute of Game 6 so emotional? The Moody Blues It's that "X" Factor that separates true legends from also-rans.The Men from the Boys. Like everyone else, there's a few changes I would make. Regarding your throughts on the 2014 Nominees, I would say that the only group that I woundn't celebrate getting into the Hall would be NWA. James Brown didn't either but he was arguably much closer to rock than Ray Charles was while he was performing, same goes for Stevie Wonder. The first change I would make to this pyramid: Michael Jackson to Level 5, perhaps replacing Jimi Hendrix. I am williams by name. And when is Poco going to move up. Corey Finn, Chicago- 4 Favorite induction year: 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2006, 2013. The Smiths David Bowie Her induction was more important as a recognition of her ability to rise back up without her abusive husband that it was about the quality and impact of her solo catalog. Follow us on twitter to keep up with everything Rock Hall related. I don't see Nine Inch Nails. Paul Westphal, 90. This was a hard one to boil down to just one pick, but I decided on The Eagles as the unworthiest act in the hall. If not them, then Hendrix, probably. I would think acts like Parliament - Funkadelic, Sex Pistols, Frank Zappa, Curtis Mayfield, The Stooges, AC/DC, Guns N' Roses & The Yardbirds should move up to Level 3 because they have defined genres in their own right. Pearl Jam and Nina Simone are borderline Level 2/3 acts, in my opinion. Whats legacy, anyway? Anyone voted in simply because they reached a benchmark (sold lots of records, had a lot of hits, etc.) Posted by Mike on Tuesday, 11/29/2016 @ 05:08am, Pearl Jam - level 3 They at least had a beat and memorable songs. 6/10 = Decent Artists Is Harden the NBAs best scorer since Michael Jordan? I know Giannis, Harden, and Russ won those MVPs, but KD was the best player on the best team and snatched the crown from LeBron in 2017 and 2018 when he outplayed him in both those series. All English speaking countries?). Sure, they influenced Green Day and some others. Is the top level EVER going to have more than twelve? I'm coming up with a questionnaire/survey on the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame's inductees. The Cars- 3 Fats Domino Carly Simon As for the newer inductees, If the Bucks win the title? Parliament - Funkadelic: 10/10 1986 Jimmie Rodgers Todd Rundgren-1, Posted by Corey Finn on Tuesday, 05/18/2021 @ 15:57pm. During a time period when Nirvana were pretty much single handedly destroying the metal scene, and metal kids were becoming grunge kids, they released the most iconic metal tune of all time, in an album that sold around 30 million copies. A great scorer, but I'm not sure he was ever a good enough all-around player to be the best player on a champ despite that one year with the Nuggets. Billy Joel: 9/10 I'd at least move up Aretha, the Boss, and Bowie, Posted by Mike on Tuesday, 04/2/2019 @ 14:50pm. Beyond that, a proper redesigning would go something like this: Name Affiliation Year. Ken Cook WAGA-TV 2015 71. He wound up avoiding being lumped in to any Rock and Roll labeling likely because he was being marketed to a wider and more mature audience than the industry was marketing towards for the acts that got lumped into the early Rock and Roll label. Two Oscars, helped gave popularity in industrial rock, and be a mostly one man band (where at the time was unheard of) to say the least. Bill Simmons Hall of Fame Pyramid; ABA All-Time Team; NBA & ABA All-Star Game. 5) THE SUPREMES at # 97 Bob Dylan, Ray Charles, Jimi Hendrix, Little Richard, James Brown, Muddy Waters and Robert Johnson The Everly Brothers He was one of the first rock and rollers to incorporate politics and social issues and he mostly did that during his solo career. Paul McCartney: 8/10 Cheap Trick: Level 2 I don't see the influence or quality, honestly. Willis Reed, 34. Duran Duran (Level 1 or 2) Posted by Follower on Sunday, 01/20/2019 @ 15:23pm, Well, it's no longer multiples of twelve and hasn't been since the first year. Ricky Nelson: 9/10 56. Paul Arizin, 64. "Happy Landing" - The Temptations. Diana Ross seems to be a rather unpleasant lady based on her public outbursts. I slotted him in next to McAdoo since their careers have some similarities so far in terms of pure accolades. 11. 92. "A Legend In Its Own Time" J Dilla (as an exercept of his song "One Eleven"). I'd also drop Tina Turner down to Level 1. I assumed you meant the bottom, but I don't wanna put words in your mouth. The Isley Brothers: 9/10 Fats Domino should be moved up four rows. Marvin Gaye (Level 5) Level 3 2Pac is probably Level 2. Ray Charles, James Brown & The Famous Flames, Aretha Franklin, Fats Domino, The Velvet Underground, Muddy Waters, Bob Dylan, The Rolling Stones, Black Sabbath, Queen, David Bowie, Buddy Holly and the Crickets, Sam Cooke, and The Jimi Hendrix Experience are all on an equal plane of influence with those three. 130. 119. Level 3: Deep Purple Simmons, who was elected to the Louisiana Sports Hall of Fame in 2018 and is a member of the Louisiana Tennis Hall of Fame, died Tuesday night after a long illness at the age of 76. Donna Summer: 2 I did it anyways. would be thrown in here. The luxury of time is that it dispenses with the nonsense, the hipsterism, the favoritism, and leaves the music to stand on its own. Most of them look like 1s or 2s. Quietest inductee: Brian May, George Harrison, James Taylor. Solomon Burke: 7/10 These questions and more are broken down in our third Pyramid Podcast with Bills former Grantland colleague, ESPNs Zach Lowe. And in each role the actor shines with tools he says hes gained from poetry, his family, and yes, even clown class. 2019 I just don't have a problem with it. T.Rex-Level 3 1/10 = Not even worth of mention Your favorite inductees (You can pick at least 7)? Little Anthony: Influenced Donna Summer. 13. Tier 1 - Nina Simone, Bon Jovi, Journey, Joan Baez 14. MVP Offline Posts: 9456. 163. 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